The VIES controversy (in my perspective)
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u/Trickster-123
posted 2026-01-03 19:40 UTC
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Yeah, uh, not 100% on everything going on, but I'll go off of what I know, which is the following Frien went to DoR, against the sub's wishes This was considered a push and led to quite some annoyance from other parties Soo, I will say, Frien was in the wrong here, yet he has long retracted and stepped down temporarily. I believe that this can be looked over, as a lot of people also want to reach out and expand as well; so completely hating Frien for this was unnecessary. TL;DR: Frien did go too early, but he has done plenty for retribution, so trust us, and trust the VIES to improve in the future! *(I don't know everything that happened, so please correct me!)*
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GAAABE77
2026-01-03 19:42 UTC
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Well as frein steps down, it is up to former council member TO RISE TO THE OCCASION (of our new nation! Here comes the general, rise up, oh here comes the general, rise up -Lin Manuel Miranda)
MinecraftGuy7401
2026-01-03 19:55 UTC
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HAMILTON!
Trickster-123
2026-01-03 20:16 UTC
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OP
Uhuh, per chance did Henry Knox wanna hire you?
GAAABE77
2026-01-03 20:16 UTC
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To be his secretary, I don’t think so
Trickster-123
2026-01-03 20:16 UTC
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OP
Why are you upset?
GAAABE77
2026-01-03 20:17 UTC
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I’m not
Trickster-123
2026-01-03 20:21 UTC
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OP
It's alright, you wanna fight, you got a hunger, I was just like you when I was younger
[deleted]
2026-01-04 04:19 UTC
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While I agree that Frein stepping down was a step in the right direction, it was also a major misstep and has severely eroded mine and many others’ *trust* in the party.
Trickster-123
2026-01-04 15:01 UTC
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How so?
He made a mistake and owned up for it, I'd say that was the right choice
But, please, tell me what VIES did to lose trust, and how we could repair it
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Created: 2026-01-03 19:40 UTC ·
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